shattered hologram
2022-08-28 15:13:33 UTC
In Reply to:
God is not a Good Theory (Sean Carroll)
Request for Comments
Here the greatest argument against the Universe being created by God is the existence of a vast number, 100s of billions of stars in at least the 100s of billion of galaxies of all forms, shapes, and sizes.
The author dismissed the dozens of fine-tuned physical constants without which life could not exist as something accidental, as if we could have at least (10³⁸)²⁰ (range of numbers times the number of constants) universes in a multiverse in which only a handful of them would have useful constants like the mass of electron or charge of proton to enable the existence of life. It is clear that both the number of values of the constants and the number of the constants themselves are just underestimations of the real physical universe.
The other possibility the author uses is the existence of other life forms with different physical constants, but those life forms might look to us as no. 1 to no. 9 hybrids of Alien's and Ripley's DNA, wouldn't they?
Not much appealing and maybe even begging for the end of the existence ...
To the idea of a Creator of the Universe and His existence I could add the possibility of the holographic Universe, in which a Universe with a single galaxy with life would be possible, but it would be faith and blurry, just as in a hologram's shattered parts there is still a whole image, but less accurate, more blurry.
This is not a new concept, I've seen a full-plate and shattered plate hologram back then in the 1990s.
But the author did not consider the necessity of the multitude of the galaxies to reinforce the accuracy of the physical constants, for having them off by a tiny bit could make life and its reproduction unpredictable: only a fraction of 4³ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ = 10¹ ⁸⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ (three billion ACTG pairs in DNA) creates meaningful life that wouldn't look like the Alien morphs ...
And what can be told about God Creator is His aesthetic criteria: we perceive the creation as beautiful - all of those 100 billion galaxies are appealing to the eye and they are not making us uninterested: they seem inviting to the generations to improve in knowledge and the technology in order to once get there ...
Second argument.
The existence of evil.
Without the possibility to choose wrong, the choice is irrelevant - each way leads to a good end. I believe that the purpose of the Creator is - by love - to create beings that have the possibility to challenge His Mind.
This also means the knowledge of both good and evil and choosing always good. (Like Jesus did.)
But also implies some "error recovery", learning from the errors. In the movie "Limitless" the multi-billionaire warns the main character how he is destroying them with his powers because they are not earned. The billionaire explained that "earning" those powers included the errors made in the process (and learning from them). This is perhaps why the systems that eliminated people on the first error are not thriving as democratic societies with a free market that allows nine in ten companies to fail without anyone executed by the firing squad.
All religions explain that there had been some conflict in the creation or immediately after. The creation of beings that can challenge one's mind and giving them the free will required implies that one will eventually do so. Possibly leading others with him.
Anything less but letting things go until their end and believing that Good will eventually win would be less than an absolutely loving Creator. (A loving parent lets his child run sports because it is generally good despite the fact that some children have bruises, cuts, or even broken bones. We call the parents that prevent that "overprotective".)
This didn't happen, though, so God sent the Deluge, and after seeing that it was mostly because of the primal rebellion which He allowed, He decided to send a Saviour, who will pay for the unlawful energy created.
It is evident that the Universe is governed by the laws, that beings are created by both their physical and non-material part and that unlawful pleasurable and evil acts increase the entropy of the Universe, tearing its fabric and i.e. making the climate go awry.
It is possible that by enough sin and evil even the matter would lose the possibility to sustain life as we know it, and the Universe would be undone like some social structures and societies because of crime and corruption. That is there not by the law and design, but by breaking the law (lawlessness).
It is possible that without the holographic backing from the 100s of billions of galaxies, quasars, and the like creations, our solar system would have already suffered degradation of physical constants and life would have degraded to less tame and aesthetic forms like in the Mordor land of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings.
Let's go to the basic premise of procreation, the duplication of the genetic code.
The chances of exact copying 3 billion ACTG pairs of DNA by random are
1 / 4³ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ = 10⁻¹ ⁸⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰
So it is practically impossible, it would have required more multiverses that the physical constants themselves. For each cell in each living organism.
Am I losing you?
But we might be looking wrong probability, as ACTG pairs do not come from a random combination of a whole string, but from copying each "letter" in the 3,000,000,000 letters long DNA sequence.
This has to be done exactly in each DNA string, in each cell, or the cell would reproduce in a defective manner, possibly resulting in cell death or cancer.
It seems evident that this precision is hard to explain by the hardwired chemistry of the carbon-hydrogen-nitrogen-based life. The DNA replication itself appears to be unexpectedly punctual most of the time as if it is assisted by a force other than electromagnetic, weak nuclear, strong nuclear, and gravity.
There appears to be a fifth force that is unique to life.
Eventually, holographic assistance is required for such a precise duplication, as the laws of governing must be so precise.
I will explain:
One billionth (0.0000001% or 10⁻⁹) possibility of error in the replication of an ACTG pair would amount to 0.5% probability of error in replicating 3,000,000,000 pairs, amounting to 1 in 200 DNA strings containing error! (This is worse than cancer, more like radiation sickness in the last stage.)
If the precision of a pair is 0.999999999999999 (an error rate of 10⁻¹⁵), the error rate in DNA chain duplication would still be 3 in a million DNA strains (0.0003%). This can probably be fixed by the immune system, but this high precision and error in 1 in 10¹⁵ (thousand trillion) duplications are hard to explain by electrochemical laws themselves. We know that electrons have quantum properties and do not behave completely orderly and classical, and femto low error rate of 10⁻¹⁵. (Or we would not feel quantum effects in microchips at the nanometer level.)
The problem is with the estimation of the error rate in DNA duplication that would allow evolution, but not make DNA degrade over several hundreds of generations, as uncorrected errors are inevitably generationally cumulative.
It is possible that the degradation of matter, space, and life fabric due to broken connection with the Source that sustains them eventually leads to more genetic replication diseases, which is consistent with the findings in the last 30 or 40 years. There is an unprecedented surge of Down syndrome, for example.
The religions from ancient times somehow felt or knew that the sacrifice of an innocent living being somehow remedies the spacetime/matter/ life fabric degradation.
This was always done in parallel with the "exposure" of the weak and deformed offspring.
Today we take the perfect sacrifice of the living Messiah for granted, as well as the daily sacrifices offered by the religions.
Once the religions are removed, the deterioration of the spacetime fabric due to lawless pleasure and sinful deeds will be so intense and undeniable that mankind will return to the animal and even the human sacrifices, which will not stop the end as it did not in the times of the Flood, registered in the memories of all cultures.
We see this tendency already in mobbing and bullying, usually targeted at the most knowledgeable or exceptional, good children, but also grownups.
The crowds participating in this form of lynching projects its unconscious evil ("sin") on the scapegoated unsuspecting victim. In reality, it doesn't stop until victim's self-harm (temporarily) or death (when the crowd finds temporay relief, for their evil sin is killed together with the scapegoat on which it was projected). But all of this is only temporary, for the crowds still commit disorderly conduct, or there happen things like abnormal births, traffic accidents, bad drought or flood, which is connected with the next scapegoated person.
Who needs to be punished. Bullied. Beaten up. Or killed. Burned alive.
This is the way mankind (even the "civilised" societies, advanced in technology), react when disconnected from their Creator. Being in religion did not always amend that ("witch hunts" are just an implementation of the scapegoating principle when the connection with living God is dead).
I hope you found this text interesting.
in the Lord
Amen
God is not a Good Theory (Sean Carroll)
Request for Comments
Here the greatest argument against the Universe being created by God is the existence of a vast number, 100s of billions of stars in at least the 100s of billion of galaxies of all forms, shapes, and sizes.
The author dismissed the dozens of fine-tuned physical constants without which life could not exist as something accidental, as if we could have at least (10³⁸)²⁰ (range of numbers times the number of constants) universes in a multiverse in which only a handful of them would have useful constants like the mass of electron or charge of proton to enable the existence of life. It is clear that both the number of values of the constants and the number of the constants themselves are just underestimations of the real physical universe.
The other possibility the author uses is the existence of other life forms with different physical constants, but those life forms might look to us as no. 1 to no. 9 hybrids of Alien's and Ripley's DNA, wouldn't they?
Not much appealing and maybe even begging for the end of the existence ...
To the idea of a Creator of the Universe and His existence I could add the possibility of the holographic Universe, in which a Universe with a single galaxy with life would be possible, but it would be faith and blurry, just as in a hologram's shattered parts there is still a whole image, but less accurate, more blurry.
This is not a new concept, I've seen a full-plate and shattered plate hologram back then in the 1990s.
But the author did not consider the necessity of the multitude of the galaxies to reinforce the accuracy of the physical constants, for having them off by a tiny bit could make life and its reproduction unpredictable: only a fraction of 4³ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ = 10¹ ⁸⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ (three billion ACTG pairs in DNA) creates meaningful life that wouldn't look like the Alien morphs ...
And what can be told about God Creator is His aesthetic criteria: we perceive the creation as beautiful - all of those 100 billion galaxies are appealing to the eye and they are not making us uninterested: they seem inviting to the generations to improve in knowledge and the technology in order to once get there ...
Second argument.
The existence of evil.
Without the possibility to choose wrong, the choice is irrelevant - each way leads to a good end. I believe that the purpose of the Creator is - by love - to create beings that have the possibility to challenge His Mind.
This also means the knowledge of both good and evil and choosing always good. (Like Jesus did.)
But also implies some "error recovery", learning from the errors. In the movie "Limitless" the multi-billionaire warns the main character how he is destroying them with his powers because they are not earned. The billionaire explained that "earning" those powers included the errors made in the process (and learning from them). This is perhaps why the systems that eliminated people on the first error are not thriving as democratic societies with a free market that allows nine in ten companies to fail without anyone executed by the firing squad.
All religions explain that there had been some conflict in the creation or immediately after. The creation of beings that can challenge one's mind and giving them the free will required implies that one will eventually do so. Possibly leading others with him.
Anything less but letting things go until their end and believing that Good will eventually win would be less than an absolutely loving Creator. (A loving parent lets his child run sports because it is generally good despite the fact that some children have bruises, cuts, or even broken bones. We call the parents that prevent that "overprotective".)
This didn't happen, though, so God sent the Deluge, and after seeing that it was mostly because of the primal rebellion which He allowed, He decided to send a Saviour, who will pay for the unlawful energy created.
It is evident that the Universe is governed by the laws, that beings are created by both their physical and non-material part and that unlawful pleasurable and evil acts increase the entropy of the Universe, tearing its fabric and i.e. making the climate go awry.
It is possible that by enough sin and evil even the matter would lose the possibility to sustain life as we know it, and the Universe would be undone like some social structures and societies because of crime and corruption. That is there not by the law and design, but by breaking the law (lawlessness).
It is possible that without the holographic backing from the 100s of billions of galaxies, quasars, and the like creations, our solar system would have already suffered degradation of physical constants and life would have degraded to less tame and aesthetic forms like in the Mordor land of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings.
Let's go to the basic premise of procreation, the duplication of the genetic code.
The chances of exact copying 3 billion ACTG pairs of DNA by random are
1 / 4³ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ = 10⁻¹ ⁸⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰ ⁰⁰⁰
So it is practically impossible, it would have required more multiverses that the physical constants themselves. For each cell in each living organism.
Am I losing you?
But we might be looking wrong probability, as ACTG pairs do not come from a random combination of a whole string, but from copying each "letter" in the 3,000,000,000 letters long DNA sequence.
This has to be done exactly in each DNA string, in each cell, or the cell would reproduce in a defective manner, possibly resulting in cell death or cancer.
It seems evident that this precision is hard to explain by the hardwired chemistry of the carbon-hydrogen-nitrogen-based life. The DNA replication itself appears to be unexpectedly punctual most of the time as if it is assisted by a force other than electromagnetic, weak nuclear, strong nuclear, and gravity.
There appears to be a fifth force that is unique to life.
Eventually, holographic assistance is required for such a precise duplication, as the laws of governing must be so precise.
I will explain:
One billionth (0.0000001% or 10⁻⁹) possibility of error in the replication of an ACTG pair would amount to 0.5% probability of error in replicating 3,000,000,000 pairs, amounting to 1 in 200 DNA strings containing error! (This is worse than cancer, more like radiation sickness in the last stage.)
If the precision of a pair is 0.999999999999999 (an error rate of 10⁻¹⁵), the error rate in DNA chain duplication would still be 3 in a million DNA strains (0.0003%). This can probably be fixed by the immune system, but this high precision and error in 1 in 10¹⁵ (thousand trillion) duplications are hard to explain by electrochemical laws themselves. We know that electrons have quantum properties and do not behave completely orderly and classical, and femto low error rate of 10⁻¹⁵. (Or we would not feel quantum effects in microchips at the nanometer level.)
The problem is with the estimation of the error rate in DNA duplication that would allow evolution, but not make DNA degrade over several hundreds of generations, as uncorrected errors are inevitably generationally cumulative.
It is possible that the degradation of matter, space, and life fabric due to broken connection with the Source that sustains them eventually leads to more genetic replication diseases, which is consistent with the findings in the last 30 or 40 years. There is an unprecedented surge of Down syndrome, for example.
The religions from ancient times somehow felt or knew that the sacrifice of an innocent living being somehow remedies the spacetime/matter/ life fabric degradation.
This was always done in parallel with the "exposure" of the weak and deformed offspring.
Today we take the perfect sacrifice of the living Messiah for granted, as well as the daily sacrifices offered by the religions.
Once the religions are removed, the deterioration of the spacetime fabric due to lawless pleasure and sinful deeds will be so intense and undeniable that mankind will return to the animal and even the human sacrifices, which will not stop the end as it did not in the times of the Flood, registered in the memories of all cultures.
We see this tendency already in mobbing and bullying, usually targeted at the most knowledgeable or exceptional, good children, but also grownups.
The crowds participating in this form of lynching projects its unconscious evil ("sin") on the scapegoated unsuspecting victim. In reality, it doesn't stop until victim's self-harm (temporarily) or death (when the crowd finds temporay relief, for their evil sin is killed together with the scapegoat on which it was projected). But all of this is only temporary, for the crowds still commit disorderly conduct, or there happen things like abnormal births, traffic accidents, bad drought or flood, which is connected with the next scapegoated person.
Who needs to be punished. Bullied. Beaten up. Or killed. Burned alive.
This is the way mankind (even the "civilised" societies, advanced in technology), react when disconnected from their Creator. Being in religion did not always amend that ("witch hunts" are just an implementation of the scapegoating principle when the connection with living God is dead).
I hope you found this text interesting.
in the Lord
Amen