Coronavirus vaccine patent from 2007

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327

https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-16 18:30:41 UTC

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327

https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/

It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
longer if ever.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-16 18:31:25 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327

https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/

It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
longer if ever.
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https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-16 18:43:18 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327

https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/

It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
longer if ever.
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https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/

https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/114031401/posts/3449237394

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aye

2021-07-17 14:22:12 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327

https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/

It takes 20 minutes to read it,

Aye. Didn't read it.

Post by Noah Sombrero
but the debunking will take much longer if ever.

The debunking of the debunking?

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/

<< Breaking news Friday morning, June 25, reveals that Matt Hancock
has been having a secret affair with his aide Gina Coladangelo. We
imagine its all the nation is talking about since the images of
Hancock embracing the millionaire lobbyist were released, its
certainly all over the media and we doubt it will stop being front
page news anytime soon. >>

Sounds sensational.

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/114031401/posts/3449237394

The link above didn't do any Ting for me.

- hm3

one

2021-07-17 14:52:20 UTC

i didn't even look at it

Can you keep from watching a train
of thought wreck?

Once up
on a time within time,
a yard was where scraps, heaps in fact
of many boxed cars of thought
and cans of worms were.

Frogs in the boxes
of the many thoughts escaped all
notice until they were wanted
dead ore and alive they being
of an order, Anura, were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog

Do boxes, box cars of thought contain
memes, a virus, a truck-load of media.

How to oar such phenomena.

One may wonder, at times beyond time.

- hm3

Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 02:35:22 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327

https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/

It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
longer if ever.
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https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/

https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/114031401/posts/3449237394

Interesting article on longterm effects of the covid vaccine:

https://rairfoundation.com/mit-scientist-covid-vaccines-may-cause-diseases-in-10-to-15-years-exclusive-video/

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o'Mahoney

2021-07-21 07:52:05 UTC

This old cunt is talking about mRNA vaccines, not the carrier type,
which is old tech, like AZ Vx.

I wouldn't call her authoritative, however she *does* have a point
about the new tech in that it hasn't really undergone proper trialling
due to the "emergency" pandemic protocols.

I and my wife refused Pfizer and have had AZ Vx because we don't wish
to be part of a huge experimental base which could have significant
issues downstream. AZ Vx is traditional carrier Vx - dead protein
carried by denatured adenovirus in the usual way, a la flu vaccine
etc.

So far, so good....

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 04:35:22 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327

https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/

It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
longer if ever.
--
Noah Sombrero

https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/

https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/114031401/posts/3449237394

https://rairfoundation.com/mit-scientist-covid-vaccines-may-cause-diseases-in-10-to-15-years-exclusive-video/

"Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man,
whereas communism is the reverse"

Old Russian joke

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2021-07-21 15:41:01 UTC

Post by o'Mahoney
This old cunt is talking about mRNA vaccines, not the carrier type,
which is old tech, like AZ Vx.
I wouldn't call her authoritative, however she *does* have a point
about the new tech in that it hasn't really undergone proper trialling
due to the "emergency" pandemic protocols.
I and my wife refused Pfizer and have had AZ Vx because we don't wish
to be part of a huge experimental base which could have significant
issues downstream. AZ Vx is traditional carrier Vx - dead protein
carried by denatured adenovirus in the usual way, a la flu vaccine
etc.

What you refer to is AZ's vector vaccines in which an adovenovirus is
injecting the mRNA of the coronavirus as "opposed" to "pure" mRNA
vaccines, which is almost the same, but the joke is the vector vaccine
seem to make it obvious that we are vaccinated with a disease!
(The pharmamaphia though claim that the mRNA gets destroyed before being
integrated into the cellcore. Is there somr magic trick behind it that
the mRNA knows that it should dessolve before it is integrated into the
cellcore?)

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 15:50:55 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 17:41:01 +0200, Venus as a Boy

pharmacopoeia? Come on, do you read such things?

Post by Venus as a Boy
though claim that the mRNA gets destroyed before being
integrated into the cellcore. Is there somr magic trick behind it that
the mRNA knows that it should dessolve before it is integrated into the
cellcore?)

You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
it appears you can be rational.
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 15:55:10 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 17:41:01 +0200, Venus as a Boy

pharmacopoeia? Come on, do you read such things?

You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
it appears you can be rational.

Not so that you can expose yourself to scientific indoctrinating if
that worries you. It is so you can recognize snake oil merchants when
you see them. Snake oil is a much larger risk.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 16:20:26 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
it appears you can be rational.

I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
the other post, an "irrational" thought is becoming reality:

https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 16:32:29 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:20:26 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
it appears you can be rational.

I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/

Best thing is, like I said, go to university where, for example a
single study is not proof of anything. That requires multiple studies
by various researchers, and peer review and things like that.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 16:38:49 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/

Do you want to imply that most scientists are aware of the idea that you
can't provve anything for sure infinitly because you have to infinitly
replicate the studies bc some omnipotent being could change reality so
the innitial study is not valid anymore!

Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Or ist it now that which studies got more followers or as you might say
"replicas" is the trustworthiest, as there seems to be to every studie a
counterstudy, is it now the newest thing to decide science by vote or
popularity?

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 16:46:41 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:38:49 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or ist it now that which studies got more followers or as you might say
"replicas" is the trustworthiest, as there seems to be to every studie a
counterstudy,

The snake oil guys are endlessly shifty. Yes, you can find studies
that say nicotine does not cause cancer. In the end the profs say,
that each investigator needs to examine all the evidence and decide
for himself. All, every single bit. Not only one you found in a
popular news source.

Post by Venus as a Boy
is it now the newest thing to decide science by vote or
popularity?

A very old thing. But it isn't popularity.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 16:58:46 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

There been massive studies about the dopamine in sz theorie seemed
beeing right though the psychiatrists new the dopamin theorie being a
lie (there are no blood tests identifying dopamin in the blood and the
brain vivisections of dead "sz'ers" finding massive dopamin could just
be like other transmitters like the supposed release of dmt-like
transmitters upon death to make death more pleasent), but actually i
found only one study that says that neurons fire less in sz, though i
even doubt that study!

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or ist it now that which studies got more followers or as you might say
"replicas" is the trustworthiest, as there seems to be to every studie a
counterstudy,

The snake oil guys are endlessly shifty. Yes, you can find studies
that say nicotine does not cause cancer. In the end the profs say,

The dose makes the medicine or the poison!

Post by Noah Sombrero
that each investigator needs to examine all the evidence and decide
for himself. All, every single bit. Not only one you found in a
popular news source.

Post by Venus as a Boy
is it now the newest thing to decide science by vote or
popularity?

A very old thing. But it isn't popularity.
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 17:17:57 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:58:46 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

It is also true that you need the background and the evaluative tools
and the math skills you get at university to decide what to believe.
You can't simply step up to scientific research without that and
expect to know what's what.

If you do well, get the degrees, become the prof and do your own
research, other prof's will read what you say and maybe even try to
duplicate it if they think your idea has potential. It is true that
an awful lot of published research did not get duplicated, did not
attract interest of a prof who might have done that. If you don't see
people trying to duplicate an particular idea, you know what that
means.

One aptitude a phd has that you and I do not, is associative power.
That is where you can spend some years studying the literature of your
discipline and end up remembering all of it, who wrote it, what it
says, and what page to find it on in what resource. That means the
ability to put a whole lot of information together and know what it
all means. You would demonstrate this ability to other phd's when you
defend your dissertation standing in front of them. No notes, every
thing comes straight out of your brain and then out of your mouth.

That does not mean that phd's are superheros, don't have human faults,
and don't make mistakes.

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or ist it now that which studies got more followers or as you might say
"replicas" is the trustworthiest, as there seems to be to every studie a
counterstudy,

The snake oil guys are endlessly shifty. Yes, you can find studies
that say nicotine does not cause cancer. In the end the profs say,

The dose makes the medicine or the poison!

Post by Noah Sombrero
that each investigator needs to examine all the evidence and decide
for himself. All, every single bit. Not only one you found in a
popular news source.

Post by Venus as a Boy
is it now the newest thing to decide science by vote or
popularity?

A very old thing. But it isn't popularity.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 17:29:51 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
It is also true that you need the background and the evaluative tools
and the math skills you get at university to decide what to believe.

So believe needs math?

Post by Noah Sombrero
You can't simply step up to scientific research without that and
expect to know what's what.

You are actually saying that i can't think properly because i didn't
visit a university and with a non-univerity mind you can't think about
univerity problems!

Post by Noah Sombrero
If you do well, get the degrees, become the prof and do your own
research, other prof's will read what you say and maybe even try to
duplicate it if they think your idea has potential. It is true that
an awful lot of published research did not get duplicated, did not
attract interest of a prof who might have done that. If you don't see
people trying to duplicate an particular idea, you know what that
means.

regarding duplicating see dopamin theory and antidepressiva studies as i
wrote in the other posts!

Post by Noah Sombrero
One aptitude a phd has that you and I do not, is associative power.
That is where you can spend some years studying the literature of your
discipline and end up remembering all of it, who wrote it, what it
says, and what page to find it on in what resource. That means the

You are confusing association with remebering/learning things

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/association

Post by Noah Sombrero
ability to put a whole lot of information together and know what it
all means. You would demonstrate this ability to other phd's when you
defend your dissertation standing in front of them. No notes, every
thing comes straight out of your brain and then out of your mouth.

Looking just at germany, or simply the fact that the profs don't know of
all studies that ever been published, a lot of german polticians have
been found lately in plagiarising unknown studies from other scientists!

Post by Noah Sombrero
That does not mean that phd's are superheros, don't have human faults,
and don't make mistakes.

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 17:38:42 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:29:51 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
It is also true that you need the background and the evaluative tools
and the math skills you get at university to decide what to believe.

So believe needs math?

Believing needs nothing. Knowing what to believe requires math if you
are reading scientific literature.

Post by Noah Sombrero
You can't simply step up to scientific research without that and
expect to know what's what.

You are actually saying that i can't think properly because i didn't
visit a university and with a non-univerity mind you can't think about
univerity problems!

You can be rational if you decide to do that. That does not mean you
have the tools to evaluate scientific literature.

regarding duplicating see dopamin theory and antidepressiva studies as i
wrote in the other posts!

Yes, right now, neither of us has the tools to know what that all
means.

You are confusing association with remebering/learning things

Remembering things is not the same as collecting a large amount of
technical information and knowing what it all means. Knowing what it
means is the hard part.

Post by Venus as a Boy
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/association

To suit whatever point they want to make. Politicians plagiarizing
other scientists. Are the politicians or scientists?

Post by Noah Sombrero
That does not mean that phd's are superheros, don't have human faults,
and don't make mistakes.

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 17:51:32 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
So believe needs math?

Believing needs nothing. Knowing what to believe requires math if you
are reading scientific literature.

You should be cleare in your expressions! It's not believe that needs
math but knowledge, methinks there's a difference!

Post by Noah Sombrero
You can be rational if you decide to do that. That does not mean you
have the tools to evaluate scientific literature.

mind or something like common sense? you say i don't have that?

Post by Noah Sombrero
Yes, right now, neither of us has the tools to know what that all
means.

see above

Post by Noah Sombrero
To suit whatever point they want to make. Politicians plagiarizing
other scientists. Are the politicians or scientists?

That maybe new to an american but most politicians in germany have a
university education and somekind of normal degree some have even a
doctors degree!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 18:07:04 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:51:32 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
So believe needs math?

Believing needs nothing. Knowing what to believe requires math if you
are reading scientific literature.

You should be cleare in your expressions! It's not believe that needs
math but knowledge, methinks there's a difference!

Most often, even in psychology, conclusions in scientific literature
are based on math. Perhaps nothing more than probability theory. They
ask "how likely, how reliable is this conclusion within certain
limits"? If you can't understand the math, you can't evaluate the
conclusion.

Post by Noah Sombrero
You can be rational if you decide to do that. That does not mean you
have the tools to evaluate scientific literature.

mind or something like common sense? you say i don't have that?

One thing I learned in university is how often common sense does not
apply to what turns out to be true. The universe is not obligated to
make sense to you, as somebody or other said. In fact, you can be
sure it won't if you look very far.

Post by Noah Sombrero
Yes, right now, neither of us has the tools to know what that all
means.

see above

Post by Noah Sombrero
To suit whatever point they want to make. Politicians plagiarizing
other scientists. Are the politicians or scientists?

That maybe new to an american but most politicians in germany have a
university education and somekind of normal degree some have even a
doctors degree!

Such people are usually not electable in the US, or even in canada.
Germany is fortunate. But if german politicians dig up questionable
research to support what they want you to believe, not so fortunate.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 17:40:53 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
It is also true that you need the background and the evaluative tools
and the math skills you get at university to decide what to believe.

So believe needs math?

Post by Noah Sombrero
You can't simply step up to scientific research without that and
expect to know what's what.

You are actually saying that i can't think properly because i didn't
visit a university and with a non-univerity mind you can't think about
univerity problems!

Would you be surprised if i tell you that i actually studied, though you
shouldn't be as i mentioned that in a rant somewhere! So i actually have
such a university mind as you want me to have to understand or think
about such things, but in my opinion you don't need to go to university
to be able to think about scientific problems, just look at some
inventors that never seen an university from inside.

My teachers oftentimes told me the most important thing you need to
learn in university is to find informations may it be in others studies
or your own!
Nowadays and especially bc of the lack of access to science facilities i
retreat on finding info!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 17:56:39 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:40:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
It is also true that you need the background and the evaluative tools
and the math skills you get at university to decide what to believe.

So believe needs math?

Post by Noah Sombrero
You can't simply step up to scientific research without that and
expect to know what's what.

You are actually saying that i can't think properly because i didn't
visit a university and with a non-univerity mind you can't think about
univerity problems!

Would you be surprised if i tell you that i actually studied, though you
shouldn't be as i mentioned that in a rant somewhere!

Excellent. So what degree do you have? MA, MS, PHD? Probably they
call them something else in germany.

Post by Venus as a Boy
So i actually have
such a university mind as you want me to have to understand or think
about such things, but in my opinion you don't need to go to university
to be able to think about scientific problems

Think effectively. Understand scientific literature.

Post by Venus as a Boy
just look at some
inventors that never seen an university from inside.

True, Henry Ford didn't need a scientific education to built a car.
But in 2021, you need to learn automotive engineering to build a car,
to build a bridge you need civil engineering. That is, if your cars
are to be sold around the world or cars are to be driven across
bridges you might build.

Post by Venus as a Boy
My teachers oftentimes told me the most important thing you need to
learn in university is to find informations may it be in others studies
or your own!

I heard that. An educated person is someone who, if they need to know
something, knows where to find it. That is the BA, BS level, does not
include the "knows what it all means" level.

Post by Venus as a Boy
Nowadays and especially bc of the lack of access to science facilities i
retreat on finding info!

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 18:05:41 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:40:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
Would you be surprised if i tell you that i actually studied, though you
shouldn't be as i mentioned that in a rant somewhere!

Excellent. So what degree do you have? MA, MS, PHD? Probably they
call them something else in germany.

In that case i must disappoint you, i have not finnished my studies, the
reason for that is in the other rant/thread i think, but that is no
reason i can't think or let's say think the way you expect someone to
think, besides as a counter example just look at our german politicians
getting doctors degrees with stolen info!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 18:11:08 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:05:41 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:40:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
Would you be surprised if i tell you that i actually studied, though you
shouldn't be as i mentioned that in a rant somewhere!

Excellent. So what degree do you have? MA, MS, PHD? Probably they
call them something else in germany.

In that case i must disappoint you, i have not finnished my studies, the
reason for that is in the other rant/thread i think

The cost.

Post by Venus as a Boy
, but that is no
reason i can't think or let's say think the way you expect someone to
think, besides as a counter example just look at our german politicians
getting doctors degrees with stolen info!

The fact that humans insist on being human is no excuse for you not
being the best you can be.

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 18:56:23 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
True, Henry Ford didn't need a scientific education to built a car.
But in 2021, you need to learn automotive engineering to build a car,
to build a bridge you need civil engineering. That is, if your cars
are to be sold around the world or cars are to be driven across
bridges you might build.

Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
mad very highteccy innovations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 19:00:06 UTC

Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac

The english wikipedia article is missing his prior university inventions
of Iglove and the carbackmirror without a blind spot!

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 19:03:52 UTC

Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac

The english wikipedia article is missing his prior university inventions
of Iglove and the carbackmirror without a blind spot!

The english article even misses the paragraph which says that he had
such bad grades in highschool that he didn't want to participate in the
innovator chalange!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 19:03:54 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:56:23 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac

That does not mean that he did not understand the importance of
university.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 19:08:08 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:56:23 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac

That does not mean that he did not understand the importance of
university.
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But it says that you don't need university to be a modern inventor!

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 19:11:35 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:08:08 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:56:23 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac

That does not mean that he did not understand the importance of
university.
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Noah Sombrero

But it says that you don't need university to be a modern inventor!

That depends on what you want to invent, or build.
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read the wiki article!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 19:23:33 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:11:35 +0200, Venus as a Boy

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:08:08 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:56:23 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac

That does not mean that he did not understand the importance of
university.
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Noah Sombrero

But it says that you don't need university to be a modern inventor!

That depends on what you want to invent, or build.
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read the wiki article!

Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 19:27:41 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
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It is not in the realms of the impossible! Except that you need the
facilities to produce or manufacture it but the blueprints of such could
be made by someone without university in this case i refer you to the
IGlove made by Rimac!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 19:31:29 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:27:41 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
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Not even close. A modern cpu has tens of thousands of individual
transistors. Now think how small those must be, and what it would
take to arrange them all so they do what they are supposed to do. Open
your computer and look at the cpu if you haven't done that before.
This is not a matter of some guy printing some circuits and welding it
all together with solder.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 19:40:20 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:27:41 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
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They are just some transistors etc., yes the modern cpu's are quiet
complex but they also started small and on these small units where
placed other parts and so forth until they became so big, if someone
without university degree would be interested to build a cpu he for sure
would start with the old 8086 cpu's or even older cpu's and look what
they have added to these cpu's and so could probably build his own if he
liked! As i said they are just complex arrays of transistors and shit!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 19:45:52 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:40:20 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:27:41 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
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Here is another place where you need to go to university to even
understand what you are saying.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 17:18:57 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

Or the more obvious thing about antidepressivas being effective, it is
shown in many studies that ad's have only a very slight above
placeboeffect effect, but the pharmamafia somehow managed to manipulate
the studies in choosing selective data showing that it seemed to have an
actual effect!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 17:26:32 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:18:57 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

No doubt there is some of that, same with tobacco companies. Wouldn't
it be great to have the tools necessary to truly sort all that out for
yourself?
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 17:31:19 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
No doubt there is some of that, same with tobacco companies. Wouldn't
it be great to have the tools necessary to truly sort all that out for
yourself?

Yes there's AI which can do that for you!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 17:44:36 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:31:19 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
No doubt there is some of that, same with tobacco companies. Wouldn't
it be great to have the tools necessary to truly sort all that out for
yourself?

Yes there's AI which can do that for you!

Unfortunately, AI is a creation of humans, so subject to the same
tendency to be biased, to be wrong, to overlook something (in the case
of AI, that would mean, something was not considered because the
program code did not say "do that").

There is no substitute for you getting the tools you need and then
deciding for yourself if you are a prof. If not, your best bet is to
talk to an assortment of those who are. Still getting tools is better
than trying to read scientific litterature without them.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 18:18:13 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

Just to make it clear regarding "science", the neurotransmitterimbalance
theory, basis of many drug related therapy, has been completetly made up
by a psychiatrist with a footnote in her book saying, that the science
(studies) for the imbalance theory for sure will be delivered in the
near future!

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 18:21:54 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

But if you look at the drug therapy there seem to be some indicators
that "speak" for that approach, other than that i have counterarguments,
where one is that also electromagnetic influence on the brain is "helping"!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 18:28:41 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:21:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

But if you look at the drug therapy there seem to be some indicators
that "speak" for that approach, other than that i have counterarguments,

Drugs that work would be more important than counter arguments.

Post by Venus as a Boy
where one is that also electromagnetic influence on the brain is "helping"!

But this one is not supported by other research. You know what to
think of that.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 18:34:31 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
But if you look at the drug therapy there seem to be some indicators
that "speak" for that approach, other than that i have counterarguments,

Drugs that work would be more important than counter arguments.

As i said they seem to work, but the momentary drugs merely work after
some weeks of exposure and the psychiatrists say that they must build up
certain level of the agent to properly work, but the counterargument is,
they actually enter the neuronal gaps immediately after the intake!

Post by Venus as a Boy
where one is that also electromagnetic influence on the brain is "helping"!

But this one is not supported by other research. You know what to
think of that.

Doesn't matter if it is supported or not they made "results" supported
by the patients testimony!

Post by Noah Sombrero
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 19:05:48 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:34:31 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
But if you look at the drug therapy there seem to be some indicators
that "speak" for that approach, other than that i have counterarguments,

Drugs that work would be more important than counter arguments.

Let them sort that out. It might take a while. The important thing
right now is whether they help.

Post by Venus as a Boy
where one is that also electromagnetic influence on the brain is "helping"!

But this one is not supported by other research. You know what to
think of that.

Doesn't matter if it is supported or not they made "results" supported
by the patients testimony!

It depends on where you find that testimony.

Post by Noah Sombrero
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 19:24:27 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
As i said they seem to work, but the momentary drugs merely work after
some weeks of exposure and the psychiatrists say that they must build up
certain level of the agent to properly work, but the counterargument is,
they actually enter the neuronal gaps immediately after the intake!

Let them sort that out. It might take a while. The important thing
right now is whether they help.

I am starting to doubt your ability to think properly or make
connections between statements, but that goes also for the majority of
humanity, so don't be sad, i will explain it to you:
if a drug enters the neuronal gaps immediately, in this case the dopamin
etc. blockers start inhibiting the dopamin receptors, one might think
the drug starts tp "work" according to its intent immediarely, but
according to psychiatrist and observations made amongst patients, the
drug needs weeks to "work" bc of some obscure mechanism. So if i go by
these statements there seems to be some magic involved in the workings
of the drugs bc the innhibtion of the dopamin etc. receptors doesn't
equal to the intent of the drugs but you must wait some magic time that
they unfold their effects. Maybe they are some kind of wine that needs
to be worked around the mouth to unfold its aroma! Yeah? For sure? Fuck it!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 19:33:18 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:24:27 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Let them sort that out. It might take a while. The important thing
right now is whether they help.

I am starting to doubt your ability to think properly or make
connections between statements, but that goes also for the majority of
if a drug enters the neuronal gaps immediately, in this case the dopamin
etc. blockers start inhibiting the dopamin receptors, one might think
the drug starts tp "work" according to its intent immediarely, but
according to psychiatrist and observations made amongst patients, the
drug needs weeks to "work" bc of some obscure mechanism. So if i go by
these statements there seems to be some magic involved in the workings
of the drugs bc the innhibtion of the dopamin etc. receptors doesn't
equal to the intent of the drugs but you must wait some magic time that
they unfold their effects. Maybe they are some kind of wine that needs
to be worked around the mouth to unfold its aroma! Yeah? For sure? Fuck it!

None of which matters if it works. But you can be sure the techy
sorts will argue about it for some time to come.
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 19:44:12 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:24:27 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Let them sort that out. It might take a while. The important thing
right now is whether they help.

None of which matters if it works. But you can be sure the techy
sorts will argue about it for some time to come.

The thing you can be sure of is that the final answer will not be
magical.

It is like 20 years ago when I took a course in computer hardware. I
was told that the then current cpu was the most complex thing ever
created by humans. And that there are perhaps 4 or 5 theoretical
physicists in the world who understand what is actually happening
inside. The rest of us can devise manufacturing processes to
implement what those physicists say, but that is all. It is beyond
most of us, but in the end there is a rational explanation if you can
get your mind around it. And it works.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 19:54:54 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
The thing you can be sure of is that the final answer will not be
magical.
It is like 20 years ago when I took a course in computer hardware. I
was told that the then current cpu was the most complex thing ever
created by humans. And that there are perhaps 4 or 5 theoretical
physicists in the world who understand what is actually happening
inside. The rest of us can devise manufacturing processes to
implement what those physicists say, but that is all. It is beyond
most of us, but in the end there is a rational explanation if you can
get your mind around it. And it works.
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You are so fond of civilization in this case university and its advances
that you rely think it is so beyond an "avarge" human to ever
understand, that it even might come close to the realms of the
supernatural! If i think correctly or just observe the numbers of just
electroengineers who should be capable of building a cpu according to
the goals of their studies there should be actually hundreds of
thousands uf humans capable of understanding and building cpu'S!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 20:03:08 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:54:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Should be... Well, that was what I was told. It did sound to me like
I probably not find a program at university that would tell me how to
build a cpu.
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 20:05:10 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:54:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Should be... Well, that was what I was told. It did sound to me like
I probably not find a program at university that would tell me how to
build a cpu.

There is a difference, though, in building one, and understanding how
they actually work. It is true that there must be a lot of people in
the world involved in the huge supply that we now enjoy.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 19:47:21 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
I am starting to doubt your ability to think properly or make
connections between statements, but that goes also for the majority of
if a drug enters the neuronal gaps immediately, in this case the dopamin
etc. blockers start inhibiting the dopamin receptors, one might think
the drug starts tp "work" according to its intent immediarely, but
according to psychiatrist and observations made amongst patients, the
drug needs weeks to "work" bc of some obscure mechanism. So if i go by
these statements there seems to be some magic involved in the workings
of the drugs bc the innhibtion of the dopamin etc. receptors doesn't
equal to the intent of the drugs but you must wait some magic time that
they unfold their effects. Maybe they are some kind of wine that needs
to be worked around the mouth to unfold its aroma! Yeah? For sure? Fuck it!

None of which matters if it works. But you can be sure the techy
sorts will argue about it for some time to come.
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As i said seem to work, you don't understand, even my psychiatrist
admitted that the main function is the sedating one and even to them it
is not clear what the so called antipsychotic effect is, or if you just
look into antideppesivas it is actually mostly a placebo effect, i have
another theory why the nl's are deemed to be effectice simply because
they numb the patient to that degree that he is no more capable of
interacting with the world other than that the therapy of other patients
supporting you with a listening ear and so forth are the main reason
that you reenter the everyday reality!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 20:01:03 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:47:21 +0200, Venus as a Boy

None of which matters if it works. But you can be sure the techy
sorts will argue about it for some time to come.
--
Noah Sombrero

It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
neurochemist. Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
in brain pills.

Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
antipsychotics, and maybe can't. The brain being ever so much more
complex than a cpu.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 20:07:22 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
neurochemist. Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
in brain pills.
Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
antipsychotics, and maybe can't. The brain being ever so much more
complex than a cpu.
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Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies how
a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want to
believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 20:10:34 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:07:22 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Right, and the physicists who understand cpu's can't make a diagram
that explains it all either. It is, in the first place, beyond us.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 20:17:59 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:07:22 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Right, and the physicists who understand cpu's can't make a diagram
that explains it all either. It is, in the first place, beyond us.
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You stupid bumfuck the physicists actually have a modell that expalins
the workings of a cpu but the neuroscientists have no modell of a
welbalanced brain, they even found out about the endocannabinoid system
in the late 80ies!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 20:26:31 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:17:59 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:07:22 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Right, and the physicists who understand cpu's can't make a diagram
that explains it all either. It is, in the first place, beyond us.
--
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You stupid bumfuck the physicists actually have a modell that expalins
the workings of a cpu

Well who woodathunk.

Post by Venus as a Boy
but the neuroscientists have no modell of a
welbalanced brain, they even found out about the endocannabinoid system
in the late 80ies!

There you go.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 20:14:58 UTC

So comming back to the dopamintheory of sz if the imbalance theory and
the involved drug are of reality some might think the nl's immideatly
entering the neuronal gaps and so blocking the dopamin and so
"rebalancing" the brain should also lead to an immediate annihilation of
symptoms, but that doesn't happen, so i say , no, the drugs don't work
as intended! Do you undestand now?

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 20:20:53 UTC

Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies
how a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want
to believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!

Or if i come from the opposite side of thinking, i started to hear and
see things after some time again even though i was loaded with nl's up
to the brim!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 20:33:42 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:20:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies
how a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want
to believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!

Or if i come from the opposite side of thinking, i started to hear and
see things after some time again even though i was loaded with nl's up
to the brim!

Now, that I understand. Could it have something to do with how you
want to believe in these experiences, seek to find explanations for
how they might have a reality of some sort?

Because, if that is what you want, I have no doubt that the brain,
being a living thing, can find a way to rewire itself so you can have
the experiences again.

Are you at the point where nothing works?
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 21:00:43 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or if i come from the opposite side of thinking, i started to hear and
see things after some time again even though i was loaded with nl's up
to the brim!

Now, that I understand. Could it have something to do with how you
want to believe in these experiences, seek to find explanations for
how they might have a reality of some sort?

Can't be, i was so brainwashed by the psychiatrists that i actually
followed their way of thinking!
But now i found some explanaition of the reality or possibly some
scientific explanation namely the prooved existance of god and the
supernatural or if you take the scientific way quantastates fo brainerve
quanta which is also shown in the effect electromagnetic therapy on the
so called symptoms of sz!
But what i always will remeber if everything else fails is the wonders i
seen especially when god or what do i know "transported" the moon about
10000km in the nighsky in one instant!

Post by Noah Sombrero
Because, if that is what you want, I have no doubt that the brain,
being a living thing, can find a way to rewire itself so you can have
the experiences again.
Are you at the point where nothing works?
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 21:04:30 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 23:00:43 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or if i come from the opposite side of thinking, i started to hear and
see things after some time again even though i was loaded with nl's up
to the brim!

Now, that I understand. Could it have something to do with how you
want to believe in these experiences, seek to find explanations for
how they might have a reality of some sort?

Good reason for giving up and embracing your affliction?

Post by Noah Sombrero
Because, if that is what you want, I have no doubt that the brain,
being a living thing, can find a way to rewire itself so you can have
the experiences again.

Are you at the point where nothing works?

Post by Noah Sombrero
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 21:11:06 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
Can't be, i was so brainwashed by the psychiatrists that i actually
followed their way of thinking!
But now i found some explanaition of the reality or possibly some
scientific explanation namely the prooved existance of god and the
supernatural or if you take the scientific way quantastates fo brainerve
quanta which is also shown in the effect electromagnetic therapy on the
so called symptoms of sz!
But what i always will remeber if everything else fails is the wonders i
seen especially when god or what do i know "transported" the moon about
10000km in the nighsky in one instant!

Good reason for giving up and embracing your affliction?

It never been an affliction in the sense i suffered from it, i didn't,
but in the sense that psychiatrists saw a problem in me seeing angels!

Post by Noah Sombrero
Because, if that is what you want, I have no doubt that the brain,
being a living thing, can find a way to rewire itself so you can have
the experiences again.

Are you at the point where nothing works?

If you see in otherwordly perception an affliction that makes you suffer
you sure want to find something that works but i don't want something
that works just to please satan!

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 21:16:26 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
Are you at the point where nothing works?

If you see in otherwordly perception an affliction that makes you suffer
you sure want to find something that works but i don't want something
that works just to please satan!

When it comes to that the dark forces make a massive effort in making
your perceptions realy bad, in that i include psychiatry as i have the
experience that nl's alter your perception mostly to the negative as you
maybe might expect it from PCP (Angeldust), and so make you suffer just
to discourage you from your path and encourage you to find things that
"work"!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 21:17:01 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 23:11:06 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Good reason for giving up and embracing your affliction?

It never been an affliction in the sense i suffered from it, i didn't,
but in the sense that psychiatrists saw a problem in me seeing angels!

I'm sure they didn't care about that. The reason to worry about
schizophrenics is the other symptoms. And life gets a lot easier for
you if you don't tell other people about your affliction.

Post by Noah Sombrero
Because, if that is what you want, I have no doubt that the brain,
being a living thing, can find a way to rewire itself so you can have
the experiences again.

Are you at the point where nothing works?

If you see in otherwordly perception an affliction that makes you suffer
you sure want to find something that works but i don't want something
that works just to please satan!

No it is purely in your own self interest. Part of the problem then
is that you don't have a clear idea of what your self interest really
is.
--
Noah Sombrero

Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 21:30:22 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
It never been an affliction in the sense i suffered from it, i didn't,
but in the sense that psychiatrists saw a problem in me seeing angels!

I'm sure they didn't care about that. The reason to worry about
schizophrenics is the other symptoms. And life gets a lot easier for
you if you don't tell other people about your affliction.

What is your agenda? Or should i ask, do you really believe what you are
saying after i explain things understandably over and over?

Of course they cared about that bc the me seeing angels part was the
reason to diagnose me fill me up with drugs and keep me locked up, to
specify it, immediately after my mum mentioned the angels the diagnosis
was mouthed and the pasychiatrist offered me a benzo ( a downer though i
was absolutly calm not being able to speak and barely move due to my
burnout) and he came up with the suggestion to stay in the looneybin,
maybe otherwise he would have transferreed me to a regular clinic, the
perfidity of psychiatrist and them wanting to make you suffer is shown
in an example that happenend to me though i was a compliant patient but
that special psychdoc somehow didn't like me after i showed my
middlefinger to some nurse the psychiatrist practically threw me out of
the bin though she also noticed that i was not feeling well. Normally
such little incidents get unnoticed or just written up in their
paperwork as some incident but that sadist jsut threw me out!

Post by Venus as a Boy
If you see in otherwordly perception an affliction that makes you suffer
you sure want to find something that works but i don't want something
that works just to please satan!

No it is purely in your own self interest. Part of the problem then
is that you don't have a clear idea of what your self interest really
is.

No it is not in my selfinterest, quiet to the contrary as i don'T want
to die the horrifc medicamentation death!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 21:44:39 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 23:30:22 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
It never been an affliction in the sense i suffered from it, i didn't,
but in the sense that psychiatrists saw a problem in me seeing angels!

I'm sure they didn't care about that. The reason to worry about
schizophrenics is the other symptoms. And life gets a lot easier for
you if you don't tell other people about your affliction.

The reason people who have visions cause such reactions in psychs is
that people who think they talk to god often end up feeling like they
need to do whatever god says, that they are some sort of emissary of
god's will in this world, and can start shooting people. So, yes drug
them and lock them up because there is no way to know what they will
do.

Post by Venus as a Boy
to
specify it, immediately after my mum mentioned the angels the diagnosis
was mouthed and the pasychiatrist offered me a benzo ( a downer though i
was absolutly calm not being able to speak and barely move due to my
burnout) and he came up with the suggestion to stay in the looneybin,
maybe otherwise he would have transferreed me to a regular clinic, the
perfidity of psychiatrist and them wanting to make you suffer is shown
in an example that happenend to me though i was a compliant patient but
that special psychdoc somehow didn't like me after i showed my
middlefinger to some nurse the psychiatrist practically threw me out of
the bin

That is not something that I would expect a psychiatrist to do to a
schizophrenic. Perhaps there is something I don't know. Maybe he
decided you were not a threat to society.

Post by Venus as a Boy
though she also noticed that i was not feeling well. Normally
such little incidents get unnoticed or just written up in their
paperwork as some incident but that sadist jsut threw me out!

No it is purely in your own self interest. Part of the problem then
is that you don't have a clear idea of what your self interest really
is.

No it is not in my selfinterest, quiet to the contrary as i don'T want
to die the horrifc medicamentation death!

--
Noah Sombrero

Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 21:55:57 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
The reason people who have visions cause such reactions in psychs is
that people who think they talk to god often end up feeling like they
need to do whatever god says, that they are some sort of emissary of
god's will in this world, and can start shooting people. So, yes drug
them and lock them up because there is no way to know what they will
do.

That is a misconception and a blatant bias as it shown in studies that
so called sz'ers have almost the same rate of commitng a crime than a
regular person has!

Post by Noah Sombrero
That is not something that I would expect a psychiatrist to do to a
schizophrenic. Perhaps there is something I don't know. Maybe he
decided you were not a threat to society.

I and others experienced such things on a daily basis, another example
of my experiences when a psychiatrist lied straigh to my face that i
would have had to pay 100.000 DM to get treated in a nondrug clinic as i
found out later is not true but the insurance would have paid for such a
clinic, or a fact most of the "mentally ill" have encountered over their
career at least one time is when they lie to the judges regarding your
tendency to selfharm or that you are a threat to others if they want to
keep you in for some obscure reason!

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 21:58:37 UTC

That is a misconception and a blatant bias as it shown in studies that
so called sz'ers have almost the same rate of commitng a crime than a
regular person has!

You can research that yourself if you look at the numbers of crimes
commited by sz'ers and normal people!

Post by Noah Sombrero
That is not something that I would expect a psychiatrist to do to a
schizophrenic. Perhaps there is something I don't know. Maybe he
decided you were not a threat to society.

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 22:03:55 UTC

That is a misconception and a blatant bias as it shown in studies that
so called sz'ers have almost the same rate of commitng a crime than a
regular person has!

You can research that yourself if you look at the numbers of crimes
commited by sz'ers and normal people!

If the numbers of sz'ers are slightly higher, that can be explained with
the drugs cause a changing in character and nature of a person or one
could say that explains that they are actually doing crimes in the first
place because also most psychs openly admit not in our face of course
that we are practically harmless!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 23:38:18 UTC

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 00:03:55 +0200, Venus as a Boy

That is a misconception and a blatant bias as it shown in studies that
so called sz'ers have almost the same rate of commitng a crime than a
regular person has!

You can research that yourself if you look at the numbers of crimes
commited by sz'ers and normal people!

Perhaps you are. It might be that the incidence of schizophrenics
thinking they are told by god to do such things might be low. The
psych is thinking that, if he turns you loose and you do stuff like
that, it will be his fault and his professional reputation. So, he
will want to be very sure, at least, before releasing you.
--
Noah Sombrero

Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 21:46:43 UTC

I'm sure they didn't care about that. The reason to worry about
schizophrenics is the other symptoms. And life gets a lot easier for
you if you don't tell other people about your affliction.

What is your agenda? Or should i ask, do you really believe what you are
saying after i explain things understandably over and over?
Of course they cared about that bc the me seeing angels part was the
reason to diagnose me fill me up with drugs and keep me locked up, to
specify it, immediately after my mum mentioned the angels the diagnosis
was mouthed and the pasychiatrist offered me a benzo ( a downer though i
was absolutly calm not being able to speak and barely move due to my
burnout) and he came up with the suggestion to stay in the looneybin,
maybe otherwise he would have transferreed me to a regular clinic, the
perfidity of psychiatrist and them wanting to make you suffer is shown
in an example that happenend to me though i was a compliant patient but
that special psychdoc somehow didn't like me after i showed my
middlefinger to some nurse the psychiatrist practically threw me out of
the bin though she also noticed that i was not feeling well. Normally
such little incidents get unnoticed or just written up in their
paperwork as some incident but that sadist jsut threw me out!

You might see in the not feeling well part an indicator for the
affliction and suffering due to some thing defined as "sz" but in
hindsight it was just the meds that made you feel bad, also when i take
in account a friend of mine that told me his strategy to get out of the
clinic, he said to me if the psychdoc askes you if you feel bad don't
tell them that you feel bad because then they give you more meds (higher
doses) and then you even feel worse tell them that everything is okay
and than they won't give you more and release you!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 23:18:23 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 23:46:43 +0200, Venus as a Boy

I'm sure they didn't care about that. The reason to worry about
schizophrenics is the other symptoms. And life gets a lot easier for
you if you don't tell other people about your affliction.

What is your agenda? Or should i ask, do you really believe what you are
saying after i explain things understandably over and over?
Of course they cared about that bc the me seeing angels part was the
reason to diagnose me fill me up with drugs and keep me locked up, to
specify it, immediately after my mum mentioned the angels the diagnosis
was mouthed and the pasychiatrist offered me a benzo ( a downer though i
was absolutly calm not being able to speak and barely move due to my
burnout) and he came up with the suggestion to stay in the looneybin,
maybe otherwise he would have transferreed me to a regular clinic, the
perfidity of psychiatrist and them wanting to make you suffer is shown
in an example that happenend to me though i was a compliant patient but
that special psychdoc somehow didn't like me after i showed my
middlefinger to some nurse the psychiatrist practically threw me out of
the bin though she also noticed that i was not feeling well. Normally
such little incidents get unnoticed or just written up in their
paperwork as some incident but that sadist jsut threw me out!

Among the rest of us, the story is that, if you are a sane person who
somehow gets stuck in an asylum, how do you get out? You do exactly
what you are told every time, immediately without complaint. A person
probably would not act that way normally, but a sane person will have
the ability to act that way if he chooses to, a not sane person cannot
stick to a choice like that. If the sane person is not entirely sane,
then at least he has demonstrated that he can function in a society
composed on not particularly sane people.

When you don't tell the doc how the medication makes you feel, you
eliminate any chance of getting medication that you can be comfortable
with.

The rest of us don't believe that psychiatrists don't act without good
reason. If you say that they do, we don't believe you. So,
regardless of what you think, it would be best if you don't tell us
that. And other things related to your condition. It is none of our
business anyway. Not that I am complaining. I am talking about how
things go in the world for you if you tell us things like that.
--
Noah Sombrero

Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 23:27:08 UTC

Unclear sentence.

Post by Noah Sombrero
The rest of us don't believe that psychiatrists don't act without good
reason.

Better would be
The rest of us don't believe that psychiatrists act without good
reason.
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 23:27:51 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 23:46:43 +0200, Venus as a Boy

I'm sure they didn't care about that. The reason to worry about
schizophrenics is the other symptoms. And life gets a lot easier for
you if you don't tell other people about your affliction.

What is your agenda? Or should i ask, do you really believe what you are
saying after i explain things understandably over and over?
Of course they cared about that bc the me seeing angels part was the
reason to diagnose me fill me up with drugs and keep me locked up, to
specify it, immediately after my mum mentioned the angels the diagnosis
was mouthed and the pasychiatrist offered me a benzo ( a downer though i
was absolutly calm not being able to speak and barely move due to my
burnout) and he came up with the suggestion to stay in the looneybin,
maybe otherwise he would have transferreed me to a regular clinic, the
perfidity of psychiatrist and them wanting to make you suffer is shown
in an example that happenend to me though i was a compliant patient but
that special psychdoc somehow didn't like me after i showed my
middlefinger to some nurse the psychiatrist practically threw me out of
the bin though she also noticed that i was not feeling well. Normally
such little incidents get unnoticed or just written up in their
paperwork as some incident but that sadist jsut threw me out!

Among the rest of us, the story is that, if you are a sane person who
somehow gets stuck in an asylum, how do you get out? You do exactly
what you are told every time, immediately without complaint. A person
probably would not act that way normally, but a sane person will have
the ability to act that way if he chooses to, a not sane person cannot
stick to a choice like that. If the sane person is not entirely sane,
then at least he has demonstrated that he can function in a society
composed on not particularly sane people.
When you don't tell the doc how the medication makes you feel, you
eliminate any chance of getting medication that you can be comfortable
with.
The rest of us don't believe that psychiatrists don't act without good
reason. If you say that they do, we don't believe you. So,
regardless of what you think, it would be best if you don't tell us
that. And other things related to your condition. It is none of our
business anyway. Not that I am complaining. I am talking about how
things go in the world for you if you tell us things like that.
--
Noah Sombrero

i get any dope i ask for from my doc

Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 23:43:09 UTC

Am 22.07.2021 um 01:18 schrieb Noah Sombrero:

Initial words: loads of bullshitt written by a naive person named Noah!

Post by Noah Sombrero
Among the rest of us, the story is that, if you are a sane person who
somehow gets stuck in an asylum, how do you get out? You do exactly
what you are told every time, immediately without complaint. A person

Actually that is what all so called psychos do, but since you never been
to an asylum, i tell you reality, you get loaded with psychotropic
psychopharmaceuticals, almost 99% of the patients get so, whcih make you
irrational and prone to the nonstop harrasment of the psychiatry staff,
not all staff of course but maybe from real psychopaths that love to
torture you for the biases like noah has or other biases or maybe bc
they are just evil or simply bc years of routine and seeing not getting
anywhere with the so called help always seeing the old faces over and
over makes them some kind of hard-boiled and treat the püatients like shit.

Post by Noah Sombrero
probably would not act that way normally, but a sane person will have
the ability to act that way if he chooses to, a not sane person cannot
stick to a choice like that. If the sane person is not entirely sane,

Where you got that bias from, especially if you look at the still
compliant patients trying to get "healed" after years of nonworking
treatment?

Post by Noah Sombrero
then at least he has demonstrated that he can function in a society
composed on not particularly sane people.
When you don't tell the doc how the medication makes you feel, you
eliminate any chance of getting medication that you can be comfortable
with.

You know nothing of these kind of meds, if they don'T make you feel bad
at least they start giving you a thing like apathy, numbness and many
others that are described as negativesymptoms and are ascribed to sz but
as more and more comes to light it is shown that so called negative
symptoms are induced through so called meds!

Post by Noah Sombrero
The rest of us don't believe that psychiatrists don't act without good
reason. If you say that they do, we don't believe you. So,

They have a reason to act the way they act, superficial it is the so
called psychiatry guild interest to keep their profession alive and earn
money with that, but beneath that there might be darker interests which
i won'T go into detail!

Post by Noah Sombrero
regardless of what you think, it would be best if you don't tell us
that. And other things related to your condition. It is none of our
business anyway. Not that I am complaining. I am talking about how
things go in the world for you if you tell us things like that.

Do you say so also to survivers of rape and childabuse, to hush hush and
don'T tell the police or anybody!

Post by Noah Sombrero
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 23:51:47 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
The rest of us don't believe that psychiatrists don't act without good
reason. If you say that they do, we don't believe you. So,

Even if there would be such a thing that needs to get healed there are
methods that work a milion times more effective but are dismissed by
mainstreampsychiatry! That should the avarage "psycho" make at least
start to think that there's something wrong with the standard psychiatry!

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 23:57:26 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
The rest of us don't believe that psychiatrists don't act without good
reason. If you say that they do, we don't believe you. So,

They have a reason to act the way they act, superficial it is the so
called psychiatry guild interest to keep their profession alive and
earn money with that, but beneath that there might be darker interests
which i won'T go into detail!

Okay for details it is the therpay form of "open dialogue" where there's
a healing rate of about 85% of patients without the help of so called
meds, opposed to a healing rate of 0% in standrd psychiatry, when you
don't take the 33% of sz'ers in account who are thought of as the
percantage which the sickness stops naturally! And espacially when you
compare that to the standard psychiatry, with open dialogue, you don'T
have the suicides, the death by sideeffects and disabling effects of so
called meds!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-22 00:05:41 UTC

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 01:57:26 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
The rest of us don't believe that psychiatrists don't act without good
reason. If you say that they do, we don't believe you. So,

They have a reason to act the way they act, superficial it is the so
called psychiatry guild interest to keep their profession alive and
earn money with that, but beneath that there might be darker interests
which i won'T go into detail!

Group therapy is good for some things, like recovering from childhood
trauma, alcoholism, drug abuse, etc.

It is not so good for dealing with diagnosable conditions like
schizophrenia, paranoia, psychopathology, narcissism, which tend to be
genetic and incurable. Or so I am told.
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Noah Sombrero

Venus as a Boy

2021-07-22 00:02:54 UTC

Absolutely tell the police, or your best friend who always listens and
tries to help. Otherwise, nobody.

If we would tell nobody especially not the public or the media it would
be for eternity buiseness as usual and we would die and be tortured as i
told in the other posts, police gives a shit if some approved authority
tells you: nothing to see, please move on!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-22 00:09:12 UTC

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 02:02:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Absolutely tell the police, or your best friend who always listens and
tries to help. Otherwise, nobody.

If we would tell nobody especially not the public or the media it would
be for eternity buiseness as usual

It would be you living the best life you can without people treating
you like they think you are nuts. Best for you if they don't treat
you that way.

Post by Venus as a Boy
and we would die and be tortured as i
told in the other posts, police gives a shit if some approved authority
tells you: nothing to see, please move on!

I was thinking more of the rape, and abuse situations.

So don't tell them, that leaves only your friend.
--
Noah Sombrero

Venus as a Boy

2021-07-22 00:14:41 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
If we would tell nobody especially not the public or the media it would
be for eternity buiseness as usual

It would be you living the best life you can without people treating
you like they think you are nuts. Best for you if they don't treat
you that way.

Yeah even Jesus had the phariseans or whoever mocked him!

Post by Venus as a Boy
and we would die and be tortured as i
told in the other posts, police gives a shit if some approved authority
tells you: nothing to see, please move on!

I was thinking more of the rape, and abuse situations.
So don't tell them, that leaves only your friend.

No i could start to get some kind of suspicious about you thinking that
you condone our suicides, deaths by sideffects, and disabilitites caused
by the meds.

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-22 00:21:31 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
If we would tell nobody especially not the public or the media it would
be for eternity buiseness as usual

It would be you living the best life you can without people treating
you like they think you are nuts. Best for you if they don't treat
you that way.

Yeah even Jesus had the phariseans or whoever mocked him!

Post by Venus as a Boy
and we would die and be tortured as i
told in the other posts, police gives a shit if some approved authority
tells you: nothing to see, please move on!

I was thinking more of the rape, and abuse situations.
So don't tell them, that leaves only your friend.

No i could start to get some kind of suspicious about you thinking that
you condone our suicides, deaths by sideffects, and disabilitites caused
by the meds.

The whole time we were discussing i had the impresssion or better the
hope you maybe might be someone who is so brainwashed that he can't
realise what i am saying even if i make the most logical conclusions and
statements but if i look at the last statements of you i might think
that you belong to the dark forces who wants to see us rather dead!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-22 00:35:50 UTC

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 02:14:41 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
If we would tell nobody especially not the public or the media it would
be for eternity buiseness as usual

It would be you living the best life you can without people treating
you like they think you are nuts. Best for you if they don't treat
you that way.

Yeah even Jesus had the phariseans or whoever mocked him!

Post by Venus as a Boy
and we would die and be tortured as i
told in the other posts, police gives a shit if some approved authority
tells you: nothing to see, please move on!

I was thinking more of the rape, and abuse situations.
So don't tell them, that leaves only your friend.

No i could start to get some kind of suspicious about you thinking that
you condone our suicides, deaths by sideffects, and disabilitites caused
by the meds.

Different situation. For any of those, find somebody who can make a
difference and start talking. In that case, you would have three
things, the person who listens, and the person who can actually make
things happen, and nobody else treating you like you are nuts.

Group therapy might serve as the person who can make a difference.
Maybe.
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Noah Sombrero

Venus as a Boy

2021-07-22 00:42:15 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
Different situation. For any of those, find somebody who can make a
difference and start talking. In that case, you would have three
things, the person who listens, and the person who can actually make
things happen, and nobody else treating you like you are nuts.
Group therapy might serve as the person who can make a difference.
Maybe.

to late for your explanations i identified you as an enemy!

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-22 00:45:47 UTC

Different situation. For any of those, find somebody who can make a
difference and start talking. In that case, you would have three
things, the person who listens, and the person who can actually make
things happen, and nobody else treating you like you are nuts.
Group therapy might serve as the person who can make a difference.
Maybe.

to late for your explanations i identified you as an enemy!

you might be even one of the 99er lodge, judging by another post, who
gets freely sacrficed to lucifer and live with him in his kingdom so
that the lodge keeps its power!

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gamo

2021-07-22 03:08:39 UTC

Different situation. For any of those, find somebody who can make a
difference and start talking. In that case, you would have three
things, the person who listens, and the person who can actually make
things happen, and nobody else treating you like you are nuts.
Group therapy might serve as the person who can make a difference.
Maybe.

to late for your explanations i identified you as an enemy!

you might be even one of the 99er lodge, judging by another post, who
gets freely sacrficed to lucifer and live with him in his kingdom so
that the lodge keeps its power!

What about an ombudsman of the psychyatric patient?

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 20:27:35 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:14:58 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Slower than intended for a reason yet to be discovered.
--
Noah Sombrero

Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 21:40:00 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
So comming back to the dopamintheory of sz if the imbalance theory and
the involved drug are of reality some might think the nl's immideatly
entering the neuronal gaps and so blocking the dopamin and so
"rebalancing" the brain should also lead to an immediate annihilation of
symptoms, but that doesn't happen, so i say , no, the drugs don't work
as intended! Do you undestand now?

Slower than intended for a reason yet to be discovered.

I don't distinguish between nl's and ad's as they have some basic
features that are similar they enter the neuronal gap and alter the
neurotransmitter uptake in the receptors so i also don'T differ in my
thinkig about them as ad's found to be mostly palceboeffect and so i
conclude the nl's are the same!

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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 18:29:50 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

There been massive studies about the dopamine in sz theorie seemed
beeing right though the psychiatrists new the dopamin theorie being a
lie (there are no blood tests identifying dopamin in the blood and
the brain vivisections of dead "sz'ers" finding massive dopamin could
just be like other transmitters like the supposed release of dmt-like
transmitters upon death to make death more pleasent), but actually i
found only one study that says that neurons fire less in sz, though i
even doubt that study!

Just to make it clear regarding "science", the
neurotransmitterimbalance theory, basis of many drug related therapy,
has been completetly made up by a psychiatrist with a footnote in her
book saying, that the science (studies) for the imbalance theory for
sure will be delivered in the near future!

Ah ya, the sciences, sigh, there been a technique to "cure" sz which was
rewarded with the nobel price which some might heard of: Lobotomy!

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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 18:31:42 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:29:50 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

There been massive studies about the dopamine in sz theorie seemed
beeing right though the psychiatrists new the dopamin theorie being a
lie (there are no blood tests identifying dopamin in the blood and
the brain vivisections of dead "sz'ers" finding massive dopamin could
just be like other transmitters like the supposed release of dmt-like
transmitters upon death to make death more pleasent), but actually i
found only one study that says that neurons fire less in sz, though i
even doubt that study!

Just to make it clear regarding "science", the
neurotransmitterimbalance theory, basis of many drug related therapy,
has been completetly made up by a psychiatrist with a footnote in her
book saying, that the science (studies) for the imbalance theory for
sure will be delivered in the near future!

Ah ya, the sciences, sigh, there been a technique to "cure" sz which was
rewarded with the nobel price which some might heard of: Lobotomy!

That had to be a long time ago.
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 18:25:38 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:18:13 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Venus as a Boy
Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

So, then, the conscientious researcher might wonder if other
researchers have contributed confirmations or contrary indications?
Are there drugs based on this theory that appear to work as described
or not?
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 18:35:41 UTC

Post by Venus as a Boy
Just to make it clear regarding "science", the neurotransmitterimbalance
theory, basis of many drug related therapy, has been completetly made up
by a psychiatrist with a footnote in her book saying, that the science
(studies) for the imbalance theory for sure will be delivered in the
near future!

NO!

Post by Noah Sombrero
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 19:06:29 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:35:41 +0200, Venus as a Boy

NO!

Into the trash heap.

Post by Noah Sombrero
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 16:40:41 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:20:26 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Post by Noah Sombrero
You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
it appears you can be rational.

I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/

Best thing is, like I said, go to university where, for example a
single study is not proof of anything. That requires multiple studies
by various researchers, and peer review and things like that.

It is true though, that since rna and dna are made out of the same
protein building blocks, arranged in different ways, it is
theoretically possible to convert one to the other by rearranging
blocks. That does not mean that virus rna retains virus properties if
it is converted. Best to go learn something. It is amazing what you
can discover once you get away from the snake oil guys.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 16:42:53 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
It is true though, that since rna and dna are made out of the same
protein building blocks, arranged in different ways, it is
theoretically possible to convert one to the other by rearranging
blocks. That does not mean that virus rna retains virus properties if

Than what? Human cell properties?

Post by Noah Sombrero
it is converted. Best to go learn something. It is amazing what you
can discover once you get away from the snake oil guys.
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Venus as a Boy

2021-07-21 16:44:08 UTC

Than what? Human cell properties?

Or are you implying there's RNA/DNA that is just for fun or just to look
at it and admire it!

Post by Noah Sombrero
it is converted. Best to go learn something. It is amazing what you
can discover once you get away from the snake oil guys.
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 16:52:41 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:42:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Than what? Human cell properties?

That would be what human cells would make.

Post by Noah Sombrero
it is converted. Best to go learn something. It is amazing what you
can discover once you get away from the snake oil guys.
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Noah Sombrero

2021-07-21 16:55:33 UTC

Post by Noah Sombrero
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:42:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy

Than what? Human cell properties?

That would be what human cells would make.

Or not dna at all, depending on what use the cell needed to make of
this new protein it found.