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Eleven more rights that I think everyone should have
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Somewhat Vegetarian
2021-11-14 05:02:41 UTC
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1. The right to occasionally change one’s mind, perhaps even if it means the occasional breaking of an informal promise.

2. The right to consider the Ten Commandments to be central to Judaic Law, perhaps especially the divine mandate against taking a human life within such a tractate of Laws; and additionally to have such a mandate sometimes override other mandates of the remaining 603 Laws of the Torah when there is an obvious conflict between the two, such as in the Law that calls for the stoning to death of homosexuals, blasphemers, and certain other kinds of sinner.

3. The right to regard certain kinds of occupations as innately anathema to God, due to their sometimes violent and oppressive nature, as well as their possible threat to a free society and to a certain Christian propriety.

4. The right to reject the wordage of “the white god”, due to its possibly offensive nature to certain non-white races, and to regard such a nomenclature as potentially pagan and evil, even in light of its possible popularity within certain parts of the world.

5. The right to favor love over hate as a spiritual ideal.

6. The right to hold moral goodness as the greatest divine or human attribute, perhaps even more important than political power, wealth, personal beauty, intelligence of mind, or any other number of often desired personal achievements.

7. The right to believe that stealing might be a sin as well as a possible crime.

8. The right to “misbehave” every so often, so long as no one’s safety or property is directly put at risk.

9. The right to not believe in the true existence of or need for absolute perfection in the world, finding perfection as such to often be conducive to social intolerance, fascism, and sometimes even cultural genocide.

10. The right to believe that angels are superior to fallen angels.

11. The right to regard gangs and other street soldiers to in certain ways be more noble than police officers might be.
Gregory Carr
2021-11-15 01:04:38 UTC
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Post by Somewhat Vegetarian
1. The right to occasionally change one’s mind, perhaps even if it means the occasional breaking of an informal promise.
OK but there should be a good reason for it and perhaps you should do something else for the other party.
Post by Somewhat Vegetarian
2. The right to consider the Ten Commandments to be central to Judaic Law, perhaps especially the divine mandate against taking a human life within such a >tractate of Laws; and additionally to have such a mandate sometimes override other mandates of the remaining 603 Laws of the Torah when there is an obvious >conflict between the two, such as in the Law that calls for the stoning to death of homosexuals, blasphemers, and certain other kinds of sinner.
Totally disagree and so does JEHOVAH. There is military violence resulting in death by GOD's ppl in the OT.
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3. The right to regard certain kinds of occupations as innately anathema to God, due to their sometimes violent and oppressive nature, as well as their possible threat to a free society and to a certain Christian propriety.
Such as what? Do you work? The Apostle Paul made tents. Luke was a physician. Matthew was a tax collector. JESUS was a carpenter. Some Disciples were fishermen.
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4. The right to reject the wordage of “the white god”, due to its possibly offensive nature to certain non-white races, and to regard such a nomenclature as potentially pagan and evil, even in light of its possible popularity within certain parts of the world.
Uhh the colour of GOD is mentioned nowhere in the Bible there are around 3,000 ppl named in the Bible the colour of them is not mentioned. GOD is not racist therefore neither should Christians. Racism is evil and usu. stupid.
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5. The right to favor love over hate as a spiritual ideal.
Fine with me.
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6. The right to hold moral goodness as the greatest divine or human attribute, perhaps even more important than political power, wealth, personal beauty, intelligence of mind, or any other number of often desired personal achievements.
Okay but if you have wealth and political power you can further your moral goodness on others and help others and live better. Nothing wrong with intelligence and education. Looks matter.
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7. The right to believe that stealing might be a sin as well as a possible crime.
Yes 100% agree. I didn't steal even when I was homeless for 7 months. The Bible in a couple places says owners must pay their employees what they are promised. The Bible says Thou Shalt Not Steal plus it also condemns thieves specifically.
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8. The right to “misbehave” every so often, so long as no one’s safety or property is directly put at risk.
Uhh need more clarification.
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9. The right to not believe in the true existence of or need for absolute perfection in the world, finding perfection as such to often be conducive to social >intolerance, fascism, and sometimes even cultural genocide.
Don't agree. Let us just say let's get better. Fascism and communism is bad and evil.
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10. The right to believe that angels are superior to fallen angels.
That is a no brainer. The Bible say we will get to rule over angels.
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11. The right to regard gangs and other street soldiers to in certain ways be more noble than police officers might be.
Totally disagree but you might live in a place with corrupt and bad cops.

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Somewhat Vegetarian
2021-11-17 04:11:33 UTC
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Post by Somewhat Vegetarian
1. The right to occasionally change one’s mind, perhaps even if it means the occasional breaking of an informal promise.
OK but there should be a good reason for it and perhaps you should do something else for the other party.
I avoid breaking my promises, especially as of the last several years. But I am possibly breaking an informal promise to this newsgroup by posting this message.
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2. The right to consider the Ten Commandments to be central to Judaic Law, perhaps especially the divine mandate against taking a human life within such a >tractate of Laws; and additionally to have such a mandate sometimes override other mandates of the remaining 603 Laws of the Torah when there is an obvious >conflict between the two, such as in the Law that calls for the stoning to death of homosexuals, blasphemers, and certain other kinds of sinner.
Totally disagree and so does JEHOVAH. There is military violence resulting in death by GOD's ppl in the OT.
There might be different angles on that particular issue. The Bible says that vengeance is for the Lord and the Lord alone, I believe. Being somewhat supernaturalist, I believe that God can at times intervene for his people supernaturally, so a militia might not always be so necessary. I am not always a stickler for the Old Testament, however, tending to favor the New Testament.
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3. The right to regard certain kinds of occupations as innately anathema to God, due to their sometimes violent and oppressive nature, as well as their possible threat to a free society and to a certain Christian propriety.
Such as what? Do you work? The Apostle Paul made tents. Luke was a physician. Matthew was a tax collector. JESUS was a carpenter. Some Disciples were fishermen.
I have in the past worked as a dishwasher and an after hours janitor, which might have been okay. But I also worked for a period of about six months or so as an unarmed security officer when I was a very young adult, which sometimes makes me feel a bit damned. Certain occupations might possibly be too violent in nature for one to readily consider Christianically proper. I do not at present work, however. How about you? Are you still working as a temp?
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4. The right to reject the wordage of “the white god”, due to its possibly offensive nature to certain non-white races, and to regard such a nomenclature as potentially pagan and evil, even in light of its possible popularity within certain parts of the world.
Uhh the colour of GOD is mentioned nowhere in the Bible there are around 3,000 ppl named in the Bible the colour of them is not mentioned. GOD is not racist therefore neither should Christians. Racism is evil and usu. stupid.
I am not a racist myself. But I am not perfect. Every so often, a person of the black race, of which there might be quite a few here in Florida, strikes a possibly irrational fear in me. I also do not always trust those of certain other ethnicities or races, perhaps sometimes because I consider them to themselves be racist, and sometimes also to be immoral. But such might be prejudice more than it is racism.
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5. The right to favor love over hate as a spiritual ideal.
Fine with me.
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6. The right to hold moral goodness as the greatest divine or human attribute, perhaps even more important than political power, wealth, personal beauty, intelligence of mind, or any other number of often desired personal achievements.
Okay but if you have wealth and political power you can further your moral goodness on others and help others and live better. Nothing wrong with intelligence and education. Looks matter.
I choose God and not Mammon.The words of Christ imply that those who are wealthy go to hell, power possibly itself being a kind of wealth.

I try not to overemphasize looks alone in my assessments of people. Love is blind, as the saying goes (but probably not in the Bible).
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7. The right to believe that stealing might be a sin as well as a possible crime.
Yes 100% agree. I didn't steal even when I was homeless for 7 months. The Bible in a couple places says owners must pay their employees what they are promised. The Bible says Thou Shalt Not Steal plus it also condemns thieves specifically.
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8. The right to “misbehave” every so often, so long as no one’s safety or property is directly put at risk.
Uhh need more clarification.
Subtle stuff, like farting, not smiling, and picking one's nose might potentially be considered misbehavior by some people. I also tend to not trust in dress codes or certain other rules when such might be too strict.
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9. The right to not believe in the true existence of or need for absolute perfection in the world, finding perfection as such to often be conducive to social >intolerance, fascism, and sometimes even cultural genocide.
Don't agree. Let us just say let's get better. Fascism and communism is bad and evil.
I find both fascism and communism to sometimes be a bit distasteful. And yet I was a bit curious about Communism when I was a young adult. I even went and purchased and read "The Communist Manifesto". Occasionally I confuse a bit, but I consider myself to mostly be a right-winger as of the past decade or two.
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10. The right to believe that angels are superior to fallen angels.
That is a no brainer. The Bible say we will get to rule over angels.
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