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Historian Hilberg Denounces Jewish 'Blackmail' Against Switzerland
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Susan Cohen
2023-07-10 04:22:17 UTC
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by Mark Weber

For several years now, the World Jewish Congress and other major
Jewish organizations have waged a fierce and much-publicized campaign
to force Switzerland to pay millions to Jewish organizations and
Holocaust survivors, to compensate for money allegedly deposited in
Swiss banks by Jews who later perished during the Second World War,
and for gold purchased from Germany that was allegedly stolen from
Jews. On August 12, 1998, major Swiss banks capitulated by agreeing to
a "global settlement" payment of $1.25 billion dollars.

While US politicians and the American media have predictably supported
the Jewish campaign against the Alpine confederation, which has
included threats of economic boycott, many thoughtful people rightly
regard this entire campaign as a disgraceful manifestation of Jewish
power. Among those who have spoken out against it is Holocaust
historian Raul Hilberg.

"I was nearly alarmed when I heard that the Swiss banks would pay 1.25
billion dollars," he said in a recent interview published in the
respected Swiss weekly Weltwoche (January 28, 1999). In the campaign
against Switzerland, Hilberg went on, "the Jews have used a weapon
that can only be described as blackmail (Erpressung)." At another
point in the interview he said: "I cannot accept the thesis that the
blackmail methods were the only way to deal with this issue."

Hilberg, one of the world's most prominent Holocaust historians, is
the author of the three-volume work The Destruction of the European
Jews. Born in Vienna in 1926, he has for decades been a professor at
the University of Vermont.

"I believe that the [Swiss] banks have paid more than they actually
owe," Hilberg also told the Swiss weekly. "The demands of the World
Jewish Congress are therefore morally false. If something belongs to
another person, it doesn't belong to me. If I say that it belongs to
me, I have to prove it. And when, as in the case of Holocaust money,
it cannot be proven, a compromise based on healthy human intellect
must be reached that is rational and acceptable."

"There is thus no relationship whatsoever," he went on, "between what
the banks owe the Jews and what the World Jewish Congress has demanded
and received." He expressed concern that the amount of the "global
settlement" suggests that Europe's Jews in the late 1930s and early
1940s were much more wealthy than was actually the case.

Hilberg singled out World Jewish Congress president Edgar M. Bronfman
for pointed criticism: "I cannot stress enough that the man who heads
the World Jewish Congress does not speak for me. His family has one
and half billion dollars. If he really wanted to, he could help a few
poor survivors with money from his own vest pocket."

Hilberg also spoke about the problem of false Holocaust witness
testimony, specifically citing the widely-praised memoir of "survivor"
Benjamin Wilkomirski as a fabrication. (See "Holocaust Survivor Memoir
Exposed as Fraud," Sept.-Oct. 1998 Journal, pp. 15-16.) Said Hilberg:
"This is indeed a problem of Holocaust research: people often make use
of survivor testimony. It's the primary literature. But one must be
very careful, because testimonies are often mistaken, memories can
deceive, and some things are suppressed."


http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n1p14_Weber.html
LC
2023-07-10 16:19:50 UTC
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2023-07-10 17:26:29 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 00:22:17 -0400, Loose Sphincter, the unhappily married
Post by Susan Cohen
by Mark Weber
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Greg Carr
2023-07-12 20:21:51 UTC
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Post by Susan Cohen
by Mark Weber
Mark Edward Weber (born October 9, 1951) is an American Holocaust denier[1][2][3] who is the director of the Institute for Historical Review,[4][5] a United States, California-based Holocaust denial organization.[6][7] Weber has been associated with the IHR since the 1980s. In 1992 he became editor-in-chief of the IHR's pseudoscientific Journal of Historical Review. Weber was subsequently named the institute's Director in 1995.[8]

Weber was born in Portland, Oregon, in 1951. After graduating from Jesuit High School in 1969, he studied history in Chicago at the University of Illinois.[5] He continued his studies for two semesters at the University of Munich, and, returning to Oregon, took a B.A. degree in history with high honors from Portland State University. In graduate school, he continued his study of history at Indiana University, receiving an M.A. degree in modern European history in 1977.[9] Beginning in 1978 Weber became involved with the National Alliance, a far-right white supremacist organization. In 1979 Weber served as the editor of the group's magazine, the National Vanguard. Throughout the 1980s Weber functioned as the treasurer of the National Alliance's Cosmotheist Church. During this period Weber became more heavily involved with the IHR as well as collaborating with Bradley Smith and the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust (CODOH).[10]

In 2018, Weber was denied entry to the United Kingdom.[11]
Post by Susan Cohen
For several years now, the World Jewish Congress and other major
Jewish organizations have waged a fierce and much-publicized campaign
to force Switzerland to pay millions to Jewish organizations and
Holocaust survivors, to compensate for money allegedly deposited in
Swiss banks by Jews who later perished during the Second World War,
and for gold purchased from Germany that was allegedly stolen from
Jews. On August 12, 1998, major Swiss banks capitulated by agreeing to
a "global settlement" payment of $1.25 billion dollars.
Good. Of course some Jew's deposited money, gold, diamonds and other valuables in the vaults of Zurich since Hitler and his criminals were saying they would be killed. If a German or Austrian Jew made a deposit in 1937 never was heard of again it can safely be assumed that by 1998 said Jew was dead.
Post by Susan Cohen
While US politicians and the American media have predictably supported
the Jewish campaign against the Alpine confederation, which has
included threats of economic boycott, many thoughtful people rightly
regard this entire campaign as a disgraceful manifestation of Jewish
power. Among those who have spoken out against it is Holocaust
historian Raul Hilberg.
Yet it happened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raul_Hilberg Raul Hilberg died in 2007. His bona fides as a Holocaust historian are beyond dispute glad creeps like you admit the Holocaust happened. As the Nazi regime developed over the years, the whole structure of decision-making was changed. At first there were laws. Then there were decrees implementing laws. Then a law was made saying, "There shall be no laws." Then there were orders and directives that were written down, but still published in ministerial gazettes. Then there was government by announcement; orders appeared in newspapers. Then there were the quiet orders, the orders that were not published, that were within the bureaucracy, that were oral. Finally, there were no orders at all. Everybody knew what he had to do.[36]

"hilberg criticism of the world jewish congress bronfman" A Google of that shows only the IHR story and they are notorious liars.
Post by Susan Cohen
"I was nearly alarmed when I heard that the Swiss banks would pay 1.25
billion dollars," he said in a recent interview published in the
respected Swiss weekly Weltwoche (January 28, 1999). In the campaign
against Switzerland, Hilberg went on, "the Jews have used a weapon
that can only be described as blackmail (Erpressung)." At another
point in the interview he said: "I cannot accept the thesis that the
blackmail methods were the only way to deal with this issue."
Hilberg, one of the world's most prominent Holocaust historians, is
the author of the three-volume work The Destruction of the European
Jews. Born in Vienna in 1926, he has for decades been a professor at
the University of Vermont.
"I believe that the [Swiss] banks have paid more than they actually
owe," Hilberg also told the Swiss weekly. "The demands of the World
Jewish Congress are therefore morally false. If something belongs to
another person, it doesn't belong to me. If I say that it belongs to
me, I have to prove it. And when, as in the case of Holocaust money,
it cannot be proven, a compromise based on healthy human intellect
must be reached that is rational and acceptable."
"There is thus no relationship whatsoever," he went on, "between what
the banks owe the Jews and what the World Jewish Congress has demanded
and received." He expressed concern that the amount of the "global
settlement" suggests that Europe's Jews in the late 1930s and early
1940s were much more wealthy than was actually the case.
Hilberg singled out World Jewish Congress president Edgar M. Bronfman
for pointed criticism: "I cannot stress enough that the man who heads
the World Jewish Congress does not speak for me. His family has one
and half billion dollars. If he really wanted to, he could help a few
poor survivors with money from his own vest pocket."
His family had Edgar who lost 3.5 billion dollars in a venture into the movie business over half the family fortune.

And his half sister the unethical criminal whore
Clare Bronfman

Born 1979 (age 43–44)
Nationality American
Organization NXIVM
Criminal charges
Conspiracy to conceal and harbor illegal aliens for financial gain (8 U.S.C. § 1324)
Fraudulent use of identification (18 U.S.C. § 1028)
Criminal penalty
81 months imprisonment
3 years supervised release with special conditions
$200 special assessment
$96,605.25 restitution
$500,000 fine
$6 million forfeiture money judgment
Criminal status Convicted
Parents
Edgar Bronfman Sr
Georgiana Bronfman Havers (née Rita Webb)
Relatives
Sara Bronfman (sister)
Edgar Bronfman Jr. (half-brother)
Hannah Bronfman (niece)
Family Bronfman family
Website via Internet Archive

NXIVM involvement and criminal prosecution

Nxivm Indictment
Through her sister Sara, Clare Bronfman became involved in 2002[15] in NXIVM's personal advancement program and "Executive Success Program" ("ESP") workshops.[7] The sisters became committed followers and financial backers of NXIVM founder Keith Raniere, relocating to upstate New York to work as NXIVM trainers.[16][17] Clare Bronfman also served as event coordinator for "Vanguard Week," an annual festival celebrating Raniere's birthday, stating that "the purpose of 'V Week' is to get the chance to experience a civilized world... [and] craft for ourselves a more fulfilling, purposeful life."[16]

Conflict with father
Clare and her sister introduced their father, billionaire Edgar Bronfman, Sr., to NXIVM. Edgar broke with the group after learning that Clare had given Raniere and Salzman a $2 million "loan" at 2.5% interest. In October 2003, Forbes magazine featured Raniere on its cover along with the title "The World's Strangest Executive Coach". The article quoted Edgar Bronfman, Sr. as stating that he thought NXIVM was "a cult".[18] Clare Bronfman eventually became "NXIVM's operations director and one of its largest financial contributors".[1] Raniere reportedly blamed Clare Bronfman for the bad publicity, faulting her for telling her father about the $2 million loan. Ultimately, Clare Bronfman would spend $150 million on NXIVM.[19]

Clare Bronfman installed keylogger software on her father's computer, allowing NXIVM members to access his email for years thereafter.[20] From 2007 to 2009, Clare Bronfman, allegedly at the direction of Raniere, employed private firms to investigate perceived enemies of the group, including six American federal judges.[21]

Collaboration with the Dalai Lama
Eager to distance themselves from cult allegations in the press, NXIVM members sought the endorsement of the Dalai Lama, spending $2 million on the project.[19] Clare, along with her sister Sara, and NXIVM founder Keith Raniere formed an organization called the World Ethical Foundations Consortium.[22][23][24]

Clare and Sara were credited with being able to bring the Dalai Lama to Albany to participate in the World Ethical Foundations Consortium's inaugural event on May 6, 2009.[7][25] On May 6, 2009, the Dalai Lama traveled to Albany, NXIVM's hometown, to give a talk; during the event, he presented Raniere with a khatag (the ceremonial white scarf whith the symbolic meaning of "purity" in Tibetan Buddhism) onstage.

The Dalai Lama additionally wrote already in April 2009, the foreword to Ranieri's occult book entitled The Sphinx & Thelxiepeia.[26][27] Eight years later, it would be revealed Clare's sister Sara had a 2009 sexual relationship with Lama Tenzin Dhonden, the Dalai Lama's gatekeeper who arranged the appearance, who as a monk had taken a vow of celibacy.[28] Amid accusations of corruption, Dhonden was replaced.[29][30]

Media investigations
In June 2017, NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson revealed the existence of a "secret sisterhood" within NXIVM to Frank Parlato, who published the story on the Frank Report.[31] Edmondson revealed that within the secret group, female members were allegedly referred to as "slaves," branded with the initials of Raniere and Allison Mack, subjected to corporal punishment from their "masters", and required to provide nude photos or other potentially damaging information about themselves as "collateral".[32][33][34][35][36]

In July and September 2017, Clare Bronfman was contacted by multiple women who were part of DOS, demanding return or destruction of their collateral, but she failed to respond.[20] In July 2017, she contacted the New York City Police Department and the Vancouver Police Department, attempting to have criminal charges filed against DOS whistleblower Sarah Edmondson.[20] In September, she and Raniere drafted letters which were ultimately sent by attorneys in Mexico to DOS whistleblowers, threatening them with criminal prosecution.[20]

Arrest and guilty plea
"I am troubled by evidence suggesting that Ms. Bronfman repeatedly and consistently leveraged her wealth and social status as a means of intimidating, controlling, and punishing...I don’t know how many other multimillionaires are out there, ready to devote the limitless resources at their disposal to supporting pyramid schemes run by dangerous criminals."[4]

Federal judge Nicholas G. Garaufis when sentencing Bronfman in September 2020
In 2018, Raniere and associate Allison Mack were arrested and indicted on several federal charges involving a cult alleged to operate within NXIVM; the charges included sex trafficking, sex trafficking conspiracy, and conspiracy to commit forced labor.[37][38][39][40][41] Bronfman was arrested by federal agents on July 24, 2018 in New York City, and charged with money laundering and identity theft in connection with NXIVM activities. She pleaded not guilty in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York in Brooklyn. She was released on $100 million bond and placed on house arrest with electronic monitoring. Also charged were Bronfman's long-time mentor and NXIVM president Nancy Salzman; Salzman's daughter, NXIVM executive board member Lauren Salzman; and former NXIVM bookkeeper Kathy Russell.[42]

On April 19, 2019, Bronfman pleaded guilty to conspiracy to conceal and harbor illegal aliens for financial gain and fraudulent use of identification. The prosecution asked for five years in prison, and she agreed to forfeit $6 million.[1][3] On September 30, 2020, she was sentenced to six years, nine months in prison by a federal judge.[4] In addition, she was fined $500,000 and was ordered to pay restitution to victim "Jane Doe 12" in the amount of $96,605.[43]

A week after her sentencing, her lawyers asked that she be freed from the Metropolitan Detention Center, Brooklyn, while she appealed her sentence. Her lawyers called it "disparate with the sentences received by other individuals who pleaded or were found guilty of similar non-violent crimes", particularly since the prosecution had asked for only five years. Bronfman also had a liver condition that made her a higher risk for contracting COVID-19 in prison, they said.[44] Her lawyers and the judge had already agreed that she could serve her sentence at a minimum security facility near the New York area.[45] She spent the early part of her sentence at FDC Philadelphia, a temporary/in-transit federal prison facility normally used to house inmates prior to or during court proceedings.[46] Bronfman is currently in Federal Correctional Institution, Danbury. Her inmate register number is 91010-053.[47]

Civil lawsuit
In January 2020, several NXIVM individuals, including Clare and her sister Sara, were named defendants in a civil lawsuit filed in federal court by 80 former NXIVM members. The lawsuit details allegations of fraud and abuse and charging the NXIVM organization of being a pyramid scheme, exploitation of its recruits and conducting illegal human experiments and making it "physically and psychologically difficult, and in some cases impossible, to leave the coercive community."[48][49][50]
Post by Susan Cohen
Hilberg also spoke about the problem of false Holocaust witness
testimony, specifically citing the widely-praised memoir of "survivor"
Benjamin Wilkomirski as a fabrication. (See "Holocaust Survivor Memoir
"This is indeed a problem of Holocaust research: people often make use
of survivor testimony. It's the primary literature. But one must be
very careful, because testimonies are often mistaken, memories can
deceive, and some things are suppressed."
https://publishistory.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/examination-of-the-key-problems-posed-to-historians-examining-memoirs-in-response-to-the-wilkomirski-controversy/ Hilberg was not the only one to mention this.
Post by Susan Cohen
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n1p14_Weber.html
IHR lies, lies, lies. The Holocaust did happen its taught in high school and college and books on it are in libraries all over North America and Europe.
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